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Mc Cain takes on eveyone

Last post 09-08-2008, 9:17 PM by MikLaw. 13 replies.
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  •  09-07-2008, 9:09 PM 95406

    Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    McCain takes on GOP and Bush along with Obama

    By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent2 hours, 3 minutes ago

    Barack Obama isn't John McCain's only opponent. Sometimes McCain sounds like he's running almost as hard against President Bush and the Republican Party as he is against Obama, his Democratic rival for the White House.

    The GOP is guilty of indulging in a spending spree of taxpayers' money, McCain laments. They haven't solved huge problems such as the looming insolvency of Social Security and Medicare, passing on huge IOUs and perplexing issues to future generations instead of fixing them as they had promised. He doesn't name Bush but the implication is clear: It happened on his watch and he signed bills that made the deficit soar.

    "We began to value power over principle," McCain said in Colorado Springs, Colo. Some lawmakers turned corrupt and wound up in jail, he told a rally in Albuquerque, N.M.

    "Change is coming, change is coming," McCain promised, projecting an image of independence and political populism.

    One of his challenges is to separate himself from the unpopular incumbent in the White House and fight against Obama's charge that a McCain presidency would amount to a third term for Bush.

    "On the core issues, the economy and the war, he has been joined to Bush at the hip," said Democratic pollster Mark Mellman. "On the other hand, Bush is a lead weight dragging him down. He has to rely on rhetoric to separate (himself) but he can't separate himself on policies important to the American people."

    Eager to keep control of the White House, Republicans are keeping their mouths shut about McCain's barbs.

    McCain's criticism rankles White House officials who are eager to build up Bush's legacy. They are quick to strike hard at anything they perceive as criticism from almost any quarter, particularly the media. But Bush aides are giving McCain a free pass even as they quietly grumble about how pointed his attacks have become.

    There's no free pass from Obama's campaign.

    "Voting with George Bush 90 percent of the time isn't being a maverick, it's being the president's sidekick," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton. "The idea that John McCain represents change in Washington is as laughable as his claim that he'll take on the special interests when some of the biggest corporate lobbyists in America are running his campaign."

    Railing against Washington's political establishment is an old tradition in presidential campaigns, but McCain overlooks the fact that he is an elder in the club. He is Arizona's senior senator, having served 22 years after four years in the House.

    He doesn't talk about how long he's been in Washington, focusing instead on the fact that he has been at odds with many Republicans on a range of issues such as campaign finance reform, imposing limits on harsh treatment of terrorist suspects, tax cuts (he opposed them before he supported them) and federally financed embryonic stem cell research.

    "Obviously, I was very unpopular in some parts of my own party, whether it be on the issue of climate change or against (former Defense Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld's strategy and the president's strategy in Iraq, or whether it be on campaign finance reform or a number of other issues that I fought against the `special interests,'" McCain said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."

    The clear message is that there are no sacred cows. Bush and Congress are very unpopular, so they're an easy target.

    "I don't work for a party. I don't work for a special interest. I don't work for myself. I work for you," McCain said in a televised address Saturday to the AARP, the nation's largest group of older Americans.

    Even at the GOP convention, McCain was not shy about telling Republicans they had lost their way.

    "We were elected to change Washington, and we let Washington change us," McCain said. "We lost the trust of the American people when some Republicans gave in to the temptations of corruption."

    Instead of being offended, the delegates loved it. McCain's camp calculates he can get away with it because he has strong support within the GOP.

    Campaigning after the convention, McCain has not offered specific solutions to problems, saying instead he will reach out to Democrats to find answers. He said he would have more than one Democrat in his Cabinet.

    "As bad as things are and as bad as gridlock is, I am an optimist," McCain told the AARP. "I think we have hit rock bottom."

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  •  09-08-2008, 7:53 AM 95475 in reply to 95406

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    michael t wrote the following post at 07 Sep 2008 11:09 PM:

    "As bad as things are and as bad as gridlock is, I am an optimist," McCain told the AARP. "I think we have hit rock bottom."

    I am going to be optimistic too, and interpret this as the only place left to go is up.....

     

    Edited to change it to is...I guess I need a new proof reader....Smile [:)]


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  •  09-08-2008, 8:30 AM 95488 in reply to 95475

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    Americangirl01:
    I am going to be optimistic too, and interpret this as the only place left to go it up.....
    I wish I could believe that, but I don't.Sad [:(]

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  •  09-08-2008, 8:58 AM 95495 in reply to 95488

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    Dale (Parrothead Madness) remembers the three greatest lies ever told, and politicians are one of them, no matter who they are.
  •  09-08-2008, 9:11 AM 95502 in reply to 95495

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    McCain has to put a wide gap between himself and Bush, or he's losing a large block of Democrat votes.  McCain has authored bills and has voted for amnesty and other agendas that are not in the best interest of the people and the only reason I am voting McCain, is that Gov. Palin is his backup.  She goes away for whatever reason and so does our country.  I honestly feel that she is the only saving grace that is left to us, besides citizen uprising.
    I'll keep my guns, freedom and money. You keep the *change*.
  •  09-08-2008, 10:38 AM 95525 in reply to 95488

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    parrothead_madness:
    Americangirl01:
    I am going to be optimistic too, and interpret this as the only place left to go it up.....
    I wish I could believe that, but I don't.Sad [:(]


    We're talking politicians. When they hit bottom, they'll break out the shovels. In Obama's case, probably a backhoe.

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  •  09-08-2008, 12:18 PM 95538 in reply to 95525

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    Yeah, so he can bury America and it's patriotic citizens.
    I'll keep my guns, freedom and money. You keep the *change*.
  •  09-08-2008, 2:55 PM 95584 in reply to 95525

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    teknoid:
    probably a backhoe.

    Hey, no point in draggin' his wife into this.... oops... sorry, I read that wrong Angel [A]

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  •  09-08-2008, 3:14 PM 95587 in reply to 95584

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    Bronson:

    teknoid:
    probably a backhoe.

    Hey, no point in draggin' his wife into this.... oops... sorry, I read that wrong Angel [A]

    Bronson

    Bronson, I'd be ashamed of my self If I were you,  actually I'm ashamed I didn't think of it first!

  •  09-08-2008, 3:28 PM 95588 in reply to 95587

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    Jake3501:
     

    Bronson, I'd be ashamed of my self If I were you,  actually I'm ashamed I didn't think of it first!

    Thank you, thank you.  I'll be here all week.  Don't forget to tip your waitress Stick out tongue [:P]

    Bronson


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  •  09-08-2008, 3:52 PM 95590 in reply to 95588

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    McCain and the republicans know that they lost the senate 2006 because they got too comfortable and forgot who sent them to Washington. They must play it right now. On a politician scale McCain has a better record than others and hopefully VP Palin will help him stay honest. We shall see. Anyway McCain must go at it with Bush not only for the democrats but also for the republicans who until the Palin bomb were pretty desperate with the poor performance of Bush aggrevated by a less than perfectly conservative nominee that McCain is. Let's hope that he will keep his word and work to change Washinhton. If he is honest about it I can see how several consecutive adminidtrations Of his and Palin can lift this country from the uninspiring years of Clinton and Bush.
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  •  09-08-2008, 8:35 PM 95660 in reply to 95590

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    Mc Cain and Palin need to win. Then day after sworn in Mc Cain needs to resign and let Her take over. He is to  liberal and to willing to sell out  . Look at his past record he is  almost a dem . SHE BELIVES IN KICKING A##   I bet she knows how to veto  Bush sure doesn't.  

     We need a change in Washington  NOW not in 4 more years.   I still wondering if will be a election or if Bush will get us in a  big war . Then useing his power  suspend the  elections. 


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  •  09-08-2008, 9:00 PM 95666 in reply to 95590

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    Bigblock57:
    McCain and the republicans know that they lost the senate 2006 because they got too comfortable and forgot who sent them to Washington. They must play it right now. On a politician scale McCain has a better record than others and hopefully VP Palin will help him stay honest. We shall see. Anyway McCain must go at it with Bush not only for the democrats but also for the republicans who until the Palin bomb were pretty desperate with the poor performance of Bush aggrevated by a less than perfectly conservative nominee that McCain is. Let's hope that he will keep his word and work to change Washinhton. If he is honest about it I can see how several consecutive adminidtrations Of his and Palin can lift this country from the uninspiring years of Clinton and Bush.

    Bigblock, I don't know how long you've been in this country, but there are no truly honest politicians, here or anywhere else.  Like the mexican peasant said during one of the mexican revolutions, no matter quien es El Presidente nuevo, ellos roban mi repollos!  Sabe?

  •  09-08-2008, 9:17 PM 95668 in reply to 95660

    Re: Mc Cain takes on eveyone

    michael t:

    Mc Cain and Palin need to win. Then day after sworn in Mc Cain needs to resign and let Her take over. He is to  liberal and to willing to sell out  . Look at his past record he is  almost a dem . SHE BELIVES IN KICKING A##   I bet she knows how to veto  Bush sure doesn't.  

     We need a change in Washington  NOW not in 4 more years.   I still wondering if will be a election or if Bush will get us in a  big war . Then useing his power  suspend the  elections. 

    I'm willing to give McCain the benefit of doubt and see if he lives up to his CHANGE in Washington BS that's he's putting out there.  If it gets him elected, lets see just how far he takes it and how much power he hands his VP.  If he does the same old slight of hand trick, lets oust him, putting Gov. Palin in office.  I'm thinking that if Gov. Palin doesn't see any of McCains promises coming to fruition, she might just chuck the job and start busting heads from the outside by putting the spotlight where it needs to shine.


    I'll keep my guns, freedom and money. You keep the *change*.
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